Garchomp why banned

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Same goes for pretty much all countersashers. And garchomp is not "banned". I've played against a few of my stronger friends at school in ubers and it can hold up quite well, if you have the right strategy. I don't think that anyone thought of countersash Smeargle when thinking of Garchomp.

Yeah, well, I like to think Smeargle when thinking of awesome counters. I used to think it underpowered and worthless, until I used one the first time. Now all of my OU and even some of my uber teams run a Smeargle. It can easily take out some Pokemon with the right set. I don't really think Smeaglle can counter Chomp with terrible defense and no way to kill it That is why I support its move to the uber tier. The only feasable feeble argument that can be used against it is the fact that we've all taken out our fair share of Chomp, hence why a discussion had to be made in the first place.

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Switch Skarmory in on Swords Dance or Outrage. Switch Starmie in on Swords Dance or Fire attack. If you fuck up once, Garchomp gets a kill and is in a position to tear a hole in your team. Regardless of how broken Garchomp is or isn't, I would not support testing it in any way at this time. Because nobody can seem to agree on an accurate benchmark to rate the test by. Nobody can even agree on the line between centralization and overcentralization.

Look familiar? There Pokemon are all major metagame threats that every team has to have some way of dealing with, or they will falter in the OU metagame. They all centralize the meta around them in some way. This is unavoidable. Now, I'm not saying if Garchomp does or doesn't overcentralize OU around him or is or isn't broken because of Sand Veil.

What I am saying is that the line needs to be established between overcentralization of a broken Pokemon and normal centralization around the stronger Pokemon. Until that line is established, a test's results cannot be interpreted objectively and no conclusions can be drawn.

Brawlex said:. Okay, by that Logic Lucario has no counters? Gliscor, pfffft Specs Hp Ice! Also guys about Garchomp having no counters, a lot of OU pokes have no counters. Jiggy-Ninja said:. There Pokemon are all major metagame threats that every team has to have some way of dealing with. Vampdude34 said:. Its all about prediction and figuring out your opponents set, and dealing with it. Chomp is nothing special. Because you have no idea.

I said NOT to do that. Unless you mean an Ice type move, in which case that is the only reliable way to do it. No no no no no! Sorry, you don't know how to counter a Garchomp.

Tell that to all the Garchomps i've beaten. You have said nothing useful. Defeating Garchomp is not some big "mystery" that only you have unlocked.

All it takes is the brains to hit it in the right spot, so it dies more then you do. No that's another mistake, ppl are too worried trying to counter stuff, that's why you loose so much. I never ever though in any of those pokemons when creating my team and i still can take the crap out of em.

Any of them. Syberia [custom user title]. Syberia said:. I'm guessing your team is so based around countering Garchomp that it'll lose if, say, my Breloom comes to play. I'm pretty sure a blaziken won't be taking an aqua jet from azumarrill too easy either.

Bottom line though, people love to whine even when there are clear solutions to problems like these.

User Info: Worm From what I know, speed boost is what made Blaziken Uber. Speed boost pretty much made sure that Blaziken could outspeed tons of pokemon, and because of the fighting type revolution it was even a bigger force. Garchomp is just too good. It's fast, it deals tons of damage and it can only take a lot of hits. It's simply too powerful. No game is perfect. Except versions of Tetris with the "hold" ability. You are right about Mamoswine easily taking out Garchomp. User Info: Thelastsheikah.

Blaziken can outspeed pretty much everything after a turn protecting, making it pretty much flawless. I do think Speed Boost should be banned instead of all of Blaziken though. TheNargacuga posted So you are saying a mamoswine can switch in safely on any of Garchomps attacks the OHKO with Ice shard, considering the fact Garchomp could have a Yache Berry and possible a swords dance.

I don't think so. Remember, a counter is a pokemon that can switch in safely on any of the opposing pokemons moves then threaten it out. Yes those 2 threaten it out, but the only way you can guarantee to get them in safely is if you sacrifice a pokemon to do it. User Info: perfectchaos Banning Speed Boost bans Ninjask and limits Yanmega, which quite frankly aren't broken.