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Your Privacy Rights. To change or withdraw your consent choices for ThoughtCo. At any time, you can update your settings through the "EU Privacy" link at the bottom of any page. Which brings me to…… 3. Was this grandfather born with the SR or has he just started using it to distinguish himself from his son with the identical name, the JR? He is the original and not having a suffix is as much a distinguishing factor as having one.

SR is reserved for widows and is unnecessary for men, despite being misused daily by obituary writers. Congratulations on your new son. Sharing a family name is an honor.

Hi, My brother wants to name his second child which is a girl to our grandma. She died years before my little niece was born. Is it ok to name my niece Annie Marie II?? Nelson, The short answer is yes, if his new daughter and your grandmother have the same name including surname. If your grandmother is your grandmother via your mother, she would have had a different surname after marrying than the newborn will have.

Their names were a reflection of who their father was or who they married. This is extremely rare. It would be very untraditional for your brother to give his daughter a suffix and there may be computer forms, maybe even government paperwork, that she may need to fill out that has no place for her to put her suffix, simply because nobody expects a woman to have a suffix. That said, I personally think it is wonderful that your brother wants to honor your grandmother this way.

He or she may have paperwork issues in the future but if he is willing to accept that, then there is no reason not to use II. Brian Jr, Your legal name is whatever is on your birth certificate.

If you are a Jr, then you are a Jr, not a 2nd. Jr and 2nd or II are not the same thing. Jr is the suffix given to the son of the original. II or 2nd is given to the second person to have the name that is NOT the son of the original. For example: Two brothers Brian and Robert. If Brian has a son, he calls the child Brian Jr. If that happens and Brian then has a son, he can still name his son Brian Jr.

Now, imagine that happens. Andrew, I have to hand it to you, you are a very patient man. I have enjoyed this thread and have learned a few things at the same time. Now for my question. When a woman marries and she takes her husbands name, does her birth certificate also change making her new name her legal name? Thank you, Mike. Mike, Thank you. You are kind to say so. The marriage certificate is considered enough documentation to get a name changed on a license and passport.

Obviously, there are other documents required for the initial request for a license and passport, but for just the name change part, that is all that is needed. The II suffix is rare. It is used only for the child who is the second to have a name, but not a direct descendant of the original. Typically, a nephew.

If your great-grandfather The original had a brother who had a son before your grandfather was born, that child might have been II. Then, when your grandfather was born, he would still be Jr, because it indicates the immediate descendant son of the original. Now comes the fun part. Then, as those two men became fathers, the first born son would be IV, and so on. That back and forth use of the name can happen later too. Lets say you have a brother..

If Doug has a son before you do, that child will be Rick V. Your son, born later, will be Rick VI. Pretty Girl, Thank you. You are very kind and even kinder to take the time to say that. Well, regardless of the rules, I named my son the II and it is recorded on his birth certificate. There is no name police. For some reason, the system wont allow me to respond directly to your question in the proper place within the thread.

My husband and his dad have the same name, in fact my husband is William III. Since they had lived at the same address for a time- their credit reports got merged.

Even grandpa William I if you will who was alive when he was in college whose mail and bills went to that address. Ever since then on all legal documents or any time he signs his name at all he uses his full name including middle initial and the the III suffix to distinguish himself from his father. Kristine, This is exactly why suffixes matter even today. Your husband is smart to use both. We would have to meet just to exchange mail. Come to think of it, we now live miles apart and people still confuse us.

Best wishes to all. Joseph P Kennedy is the patriarch. His son was Joseph P Kennedy Jr. However, this grandson is not the son of Jr, he is the son of Robert Kennedy. Have the suffixes been messed up or were they assigned correctly? David, If there is already a Jr, then the next person with the identical name would be III, regardless of whether the child was a child of Jr or a brother.

Hi Andrew, I know this is an old post of yours and you have lots of replies from people, and to be honest some I just didnt read, so pardon me. But I just want to know if this is right:.

Is it right? And will it have legal issues later? Thank you very very much for your patience with replying posts in here. We appreciate it. This thread has grown enormously. You can name your son anything you want, even a name identical to another. Following tradition, you would be correct to name your son using III.

Suffixes were created to reduce the confusion between people that are alive, not dead. You could just as easily leave off any suffix.

Also, I apologize for not answering sooner. I just received notification of your question late last night. If you want to stay as close as possible to the traditional, I think you should use Jr for your son and then III for your grandson and so on.

That also makes the most sense for the suffixes as well since Jr is only for father and son and II is typically reserved for a nephew and uncle. They did nothing wrong. Had they followed tradition your husband would have been a Jr and your son a III 3rd.

If you want to start using a suffix, I think you might as well start as if your husband was the original and give your son the Jr suffix. The names have to be identical for the suffixes to make sense. Hello Sir, My wife and I are expecting our first child soon and would like to honor my father by naming our son after him. Thank You in advanced. Dom, You are correct. Your son will be the second in the family to have the name, but not as the son of the original, so he would be II. My sons name is J.

Justin Jr. Justin, No. Once you have a III, then the numbers go up in numerical order, regardless of who the father is. If your brother has a son before J. Again, not unusual. The suffixes merely show birth order without regard to who the father is. Jr and II are the exception and are very specific. Jr is for the son of the original…like J. II is used only when a child is born to another close family member and before the original had an opportunity to have a Jr. In other words, if your brother had a son before you had J.

Then when you became a father, your son would still be Jr. For Example. Vincenzo in Italian is Vincent in English. Am I still a junior or second or third, etc, since they are the same name written in different languages.

Vincent, Great question. While the names are the same name from different languages, they are both spelled and pronounced differently. Because of that, there would be no need to distinguish one from the other. They are, for practical purposes, different names. Although suffixes were created to differentiate between people, at the same time they show a link between fathers, sons and grandchildren.

Today, that is more important. You could use a suffix for Vincent, child of Vincenzo, as a way of showing the connection. There is no reason not to and if I were you, I most certainly would. Remember though, for it to make sense, the names, other than translation would have to be identical, including middle names. Hi Andrew! Thank you! Mel, Yes, you can use only an initial instead of a full middle name. However, I can see one problem. Getting official documents like a passport and a federally compliant license may be difficult.

I encourage you to name your son they way you want, just be prepared for problems. Yes, since the names are not identical, no suffix is needed and in fact, using a suffix would be confusing. Melchor B. Castro is not the same as Melchor P. No suffix necessary. However, if their names were identical, Jr would be traditionally correct, not II. Jr represents a direct link between the first and the next, meaning father and son, where as II is used when there is no direct line, like between uncle and nephew or grandfather and grandson.

Congratulations on your new baby! Also, is there ever an instance where Jr. Just the same as when the names are completely different. Your legal name is your legal name. However, When the father dies, the Jr can drop using the Jr in casual usage because presumably every one knows that the father is dead. There will be no confusion over which man was being spoken about. Here is an extreme example but it demonstrates the point: After JFK was killed, his son never had to use the Jr in conversation.

JFKJr used his suffix on passports, licenses, etc, because it was his legal name but he could drop it anywhere else. This continues through the following suffixes as well.

While Jr is alive, III should continue to use III, not just because it is the legal name, but because it will distinguish him from Jr, even if Jr has dropped using the Jr in casual situations. This keeps going in that pattern. The most senior living may drop the suffix in casual usage and everyone else uses their suffix they were given at birth. There is no traditional reason for a Jr to become II. However, just as a person can have their legal name changed of any number of reasons, if a Jr wants to be a II, there are no rules to stop them.

I can see why if someone found out that their uncle was their biological father, they might consider such a change. My best to you and your family. Long thread! Thanks for the clarification Andrew. Dad shares the same first name as his dad but completely different middle names and initials and followed tradition in staying away from Jr. Hubby is considering legally adding II to his name if we do have a boy to distinguish both persons. One commentator gave an example that shows me the necessity of this.

We met a girl during our dating years who had a name we liked so we agreed on that easily. Our next daughter is named after the name we were going to give our second daughter because we forgot the name of the child we met. I had a name picked out for our boy and hubby agreed for a few years. He changed his mind and I agreed with the change.

Thanks again for keeping up with this thread all these years. It spoke to the me now, as I am now even though it was meant for an audience of the past. Dear Jay Mi, Thank you for the kind thoughts. Tradition states though that unless the names are identical, there is no need for a suffix. Perhaps have your MIL read this thread so she knows that using a suffix for names is not only not traditional, but awkward and confusing?

Good luck and regardless of the name you choose, I wish you and all your families health and happiness. But not sure about the son because the lady up and left the sates. Kayla, This is a complicated problem. Traditionally, the answer would be to name the child using the III suffix because he is born after the Jr. My personal opinion, based on no rules and with no historical precedent to back it up, is that you should name the boy using Jr.

While suffixes were created to mitigate the confusion between family members with the same name, even if the first child has and uses Jr, it sounds to me like there may be little chance of them meeting. Even if the first son seeks out his father later in life, there may be little reason to confuse the two as a result of identical names and suffixes. Besides, the rules are a matter of tradition, not law, and you can name your child whatever you and your boyfriend decide.

My best wishes to you and your boyfriend for a happy and healthy little Jr. Hey Andrew me and my wife are getting ready to have a baby boy and we are wondering. If My name is John Michael Jones we are wanting our son to be the second without identical middle names for ex. John, Unfortunately, it would be against the traditional naming rules. Suffixes were created to sort out the confusion between identical names. If your son has a different name, even if only different by middle name, then the suffix is unnecessary.

The middle name does the work and sorts the confusion. This holds true even if the different middle names have the same first initial. Also, II is used when the child is named after someone, usually an Uncle or grandfather, that is not the father. Jr is used when the child is named identically to their father.

My Grandfater is JAS. His son, my uncle, was named JAS Jr. Is our naming convention correct? I am a first time expecting mother and we want to name our soon-to-be born son after his father who is still alive.

Also, is there a period that comes after Jr? Name required. Email required. Please note: comment moderation is enabled and may delay your comment. There is no need to resubmit your comment. Thank u by the way i have been pondering this situation for more this and have asked all family why my husband is a jr. When he and his father do not share a middle name. I am very curious because I really would rather have my son as jr and not the lll because his name is Anthony and I would likehisnickname to be A.

Do you see how Josiah has given up answering the same questions over and over and over? You are the fourth IV person tornado this. Did you not notice as you scrolled down the page? My husband wants to name a son after his father.

Our child would be sane first name middle name Mora with no Rivera. Could the child be the second? Hello, I need a little help. So my husband name is Will A Patterson Jr. My son has my name and my wife and i named him the II, me and my sin are the only with this name, is that ok to call him the II?

This is inaccurate correct? Should it be fixed or left alone until he has kids and informally change it? How about the McArthurs? So is this an example of erronous using of the suffixes? But at the same time a 2nd cousin shared a story and pictures of Sr. If they are following the rules, then it makes it even harder if nephews can be named after uncles or even great uncles.

And the older census records are next to useless in this regard because they only list heads of household, and tick marks to indicate number of other males and females in the household. Should we ask his brother on if he plans on using it or passing on his own name? Hello, my partner wants to name his son after himself and his father.. My mother is Portuguese, and according to Portuguese naming conventions, I can choose to add her maiden name just before my English surname.

He had a son named Earl my great grandfather. Both Thomas Grants are deceased. My wife and I found out recently that we will be welcoming our first boy into the world later this summer and we are considering keeping that family name going and naming our little man Thomas Grant Everett III. Is this an appropriate usage of the III suffix? My great grandfather was born in He had a hyphenated last name and was born in England.

Example: John Bristowe-Badcock. I have a Michael Jr. My great grandfather is named Lewis Bryant Davis I. Of 3 boys, i was the middle child, and my dad, who was the only one of his family named Gavin, chsoe to give me his full name as well.

Due to a fear of me getting labeled with the nickname Jr, he opted to use the numerals II on my birth certificate. I got confused looks as if they expected my to be a grown man with a son of my own. I am certain after reading your article but want your confirmation…. My dad used the suffix II in my name correctly right?

Or does that require third same named relative before its useable. Something else in my family, which i now believe we were wrong about, is whether my older brothers name would meet the criteria for II as a suffix on his name. We always debated or talked about the accuracy of my name using the II, and just never thought my brother met the criteria to use the suffix II on his name as well.

I now know, thanks to you, we were wrong, but I am curious to know whether my uncles death might be some sort of technicality in my brothers situation regarding validity of using the suffix II.

Could he have had II on his birth certificate as well or did the death before my brothers change the useage. The naming convention is independent of death. Josiah covered this in the necronym section. The only thing your brother would not be is a Jr. Hope this helps! I understand how suffix and numerals work according to the conventional way.

According to the traditional way, but would it not be right to do so this way? The last name is a last name, but IT IS our family, and I want it to be known he was named after my brother,.

Or theoretically speaking. Naming him Julian Leonard, after my brother Julian Leonard…wether the last names or not are the same, I understand the whole name is, but the whole name is the same, except for the family name which he will be Julian Leonard II…. Sorry, adding just one last thing….

The people I have mentioned earlier, the kings of Romania…. The first was Carol I….. He is Carol II….. Joseph Dexter Brown, Jr. There is no one else in my family named Joseph Dexter Brown. Who is right? This is soo good! Nice job. The cartoon camily trees really helped. I may say more accurately, only if she takes the name of her spouse. If she keeps her name she keeps her suffix. My father is DTS. My half brother who is now deceased was DTS Jr. I am named JWS. II is used when you are named after someone other than your father Grandfather, Uncle, etc.

It is simple. The first son is Jr. If any of those sons have boys the the numbers just continue IV, V, etc. You would then have twins with the same names.

Somewhat awkward. Your choice seems to be a give them the same name with different suffixes, b name one after you and cause the other to feel less important or c forego naming them after yourself and give them unique or slightly different family names.

My son is the 1st of the 4th generation of William Henry Randolphs. His great grandfather was Jr. However, with each generation here in the U. He and his wife are preparing to have a son, also named William Henry Randolph.

In keeping with the tradition, he would be WHR, Jr. Everyone in our family disagrees with me but this is how it was explained to me by the matriarch of our family when my son was born. Unfortunately, she has passed so cannot verify. Am I correct or not? Name your son the VI. Yeah you would be V and your son would be VI. To make it formal you could change your birth certificates. I just had a son I named him Dennis James Dougherty 3 after me and my father but my dad says he not a third is this true.

His brothers name is Brandon Jeremy White. We live in the U. Yes II. Now believe me when I say that nicknames usually will stay around for a pretty long time. But they have always called them Sr and Jr then when the grandson was born. No one knew this for sure until I sent for his birth record from that was a hand written record.

Question- my husbands first son died at birth, he was a jr. Or will he need to be III? Yes, you are correct. Third is the written for of it so I guess third is the word for third. I was born with 2 last names in another country but in my US citizenship papers and social i only have one last name….

Can i give my son my american name and he be a jr or wpuld have to be my 2 last names for him to be a jr. Since your name has been legally changed to that American name then yes. But only if you name him with your exact, full, legal name. I am naming my son after my grandfather. Neither my father or me is named after him. Does any suffix apply? Me and my father have no Emmanuel in our name. I have a question my grandfather just died but he had two son one named Elijah and the other elisha my uncle elisha was named after my grandfather my uncle had a son named after him but my cousin is the 3rd I would like to name my son after my grandfather would that make my son the 4th or no.

Therefore, your son would be II. That would definitely make him the IV because it goes in chronological order and ignores the chain. My fathers older brother has a son ten years older than me, also named Michael Constantine Potts my older cousin.

Therefore you are II, and so is your Cousin. You are the III. It goes in chronological order. Or if you want to completely ignore that your older, 1st cousin has the same name as you and call your by the same name then go for it because is sort of correct but not really recommended due to confusion. So if my boyfriend and his dad have Same name. His dad is sr and he is Jr. If we have a boy and name him the same as his father and grandfather what would he be?

Your son is III. The article explains it better. He wants to name our first son Walter Ernest Perry V to keep his family name going. Do I absolutely have to keep the middle name the same in order for our son to be V? He wants to name our first son Walter Ernest V Perry to keep his family name going. My boyfriend and I were thinking about hyphenating our last names when we get married. If he was to legally change his name after we got married, would he still be the 2nd? If his last name was no longer Williams but Thomas-Williams?

First of all, if he is named after his father then he should be Jr. However, if he changes his name to a hyphenated one, then he will have no suffix. As long as they are alive and they are the 1st and 2nd. But only father and son or uncle or nephew or cousins can use numerals higher than II with Sr. And Jr. I hope you do your research after this. I am familiar with the standard you are going by, but this article claims very different. Please read the article. Your husband can be II or Jr.

However, legally hyphenating names changes the legacy and the surname changes to no suffix. They do not have the same name and therefore are not Sr. Im having a baby soon i wanted to name him after me im a jr. But my father isnt alive anymore so would my son be a jr and me a snr and would i have to do any changes to my name? Your son will have to be III. When someone dies none of the suffixes change.

Think about it logically, if you named you son Jr. The reason you have a suffix is to distinguish one person from another. If you start changing them you defeat that purpose. Well, Harry, that is not exactly true. Because think about when someone was just the furst person with the name. But to answer your questions Rosendo, yes he coukd be a Jr because there is a rule up above that says that you can use both suffixes together and as long as it is a father or son or like an uncle or nephew or an older cousin and a younger cousin you can call one another Jr.

Naming him III is chronologically correct but you may refer to him as Jr or the younger at your discretion. Refer to Josiah:. He is IV. No double suffixes and no changing suffixes along the way. Once you have a specific suffix it is yours alone forever. Think about it logically, if you change suffixes you would be confused with other people. Any legal document regarding one person would apply to the other. There may be laws against this. But in this case he would not have the same name as you because your legal name is your name without the suffix so he would not be a Jr.

Only if he has the exact same name as you would this be true. Also there is no point in this. The only reason there was ever siffixes, anything like patranyms or bynames was because they wanted to be able to identify one another from each other.

But what you could do is name your son with your name and give him the suffix IV and use both IV and Jr. He is the III. The suffix II is used when named after a relative other than the father. If the father has that exact name and is not already a II himself then yes, his son would be a II. They are the same thing and you also can use both or which ever you prefer. Yes, you can. Any legal document from the father would apply to the misnamed son.

Ok, so, I have read this several times and hope I have read it right. And the grandfather becomes the I after his son dies to not imply that he is still alive. After you get married and it changes your name, you are no longer a junior or II because the name is not exactly the same.

As long as they are exactly the same you are a junior or II. My father is still alive. But 2nd is on my ID so i will continue to be wrong. Not necessarily. When a father dies a Jr. This differentiates family members on legal documents. Your father may have been thinking ahead. What is his reasoning for naming you II instead of Jr.? And will theirs change to l and ll? Thanks in advance. You can use either one or both. Until your father dies. Then you should always use II. It may just be a social occurrence.

Because family issues. I have my own name but in the future I plan on naming my son after me because I have a strong name. My name is Sulaiman Bilal Clinkscale. But on all my documents I put S.

Bilal Clinkscale, I. I think the Roman numeral name suffixes sound better on my name. The only name I like is my hero Dr. King, He was named after his father so he was Jr. But I think Jr. Fits his name. I think his name sounds better with the Roman numeral suffix II. Than the traditional Jr. I just love name suffixes. Since i put my middle name to it. John James Smith, Sr. James Leonard Shores, Jr. Shores, Leonard, Jr. No, you are technically not a Jr. Though not everyone holds onto the rules completely, I guess.

If my husbands name is Christopher Roger Cuellar-Sampallo, and I would like my son to be a Jr will my son need to have both last names? We also have 2 daughters and we only have them the last name of Cuellar. His Matthew would have one t instead of 2 ts like mine. It has to be exactly the same. Your husband and his dad can keep Sr.

And your son will be Angel Daniel Diaz Jr. This will also have to happen if he dies because if your husband remains a Jr. Please tell me he is incorrect. He is the 1st if he has no ancestors named like him. I believe it is very informal and pointless. Sounds like he may be insecure about his name or place in life and trying to make himself seem more noble or elite. The father name is Tom Liam Smith Jr. The question is ok to name my baby the 3rd?

No Bob—the name must be exact if you want to name him III. You can call him Bob or name another child Bob, but it would null a legacy if added. Naming a child IV Jr.

You may insert a different middle name but that would not be the same legal name and he would then have NO suffix. Why would you name someone the IV Jr.? That is improper. It is what an uneducated hillbilly would name his pig. Unless you want your son to have a comlex about how stupid his mom was name him the V. Unless you just want to be different at your sons expense.

Not a selfish thing to do. Name your kid something that wont embarrass him. My grandson was named after his father whom is now also deceased he was alive when the child was born.

However, I argued with my daughter on this because her husband is named after his grandfather, whom is deceased his mothers father. Not his father. I told her my grandson would be a Jr. No the III.. His mother also argues this point so much as to start arguments because she refuses to understand the correct way to address this.

I want to name my son after his father but he already has a son named after him can I still name by son after his father and would that make him the lll?

You can still name your son after his father and he will become III—see illustrations of Georgr Forman. My guess would be no. It would be very confusing and the child would carry that burden his whole life long. Hello, so it all makes sense, but for example my husbands father technically the 1st is Rafael no middle name and paternal last name then his maternal last name attached no hyphenation just both last names on documents.

Now my husband would fall under that same situation, he would be Rafael no middle name also same paternal last name then his maternal last name attached which is different from his fathers. Can we start now, or yah, help?? My boyfrind is a Jr.

His dad William Sr. Pasted away. And Mt bf a Sr. Since his dad is gone? If i have the same first name and last name as my grandfather but the middle names are different will i be Harvey Chatwin the II. My wife and I would like to name our son after his paternal grandfather my father. Only thing is that my father is the III. Hi, i have a 5month old son.

I put the suffix II after his first name. Can i be questioned about it? His fullname is Downey II A. Schmidt, Thank you for the great read. Your breakdown above makes a lot of sense, so I want to be able to explain to others how this works.

However it seems like the common understanding of II vs Jr. Could you please direct me to an official source breaking it down the way you have, please? Thank you again for the great article. My husbands name is identical to his fathers. He is the 2nd son but has always been referred to as Jr. The firstborn son was not named after his father and he insists the Jr can only apply if the firstborn son is named exactly as his father. The firstborn son and 2. Have identical name as the father.

Can you clarify? My wife and I have been together since high school and she had a baby in high school that was not mine and I still wanted to give him my name so we did. He is my stepson now that my wife and I are married does that make us Sr. Because his middle and surname are the name of his father, does that classify as Jr or II?

My dad is alive and is named Lesly Rosenberg. He had me and called me Lesly Rosenberg Jr. Does that make him the third??

Or it starts over when the middle name changed? This article sums up the rules quite well, with cute cartoons to […]. Macalalag Jr and i want my son to be like Antonio Caleb M. Macalalag III, are suffixes still apply? If Michael Smith, Jr. And would Michael Smith, Sr. Can you still classify as a junior if you have the same name but different spelling?

Like John Christian Smith Sr. As a genealogist, I know my descendants will appreciate this. So, here is my question: You state all these rules as a matter of fact. But, are these practices based in law in all 50 states of the U. Or its just said after the full name? They named their first son also Craig David Duncan Jr. If my boyfriend and I name our son Craig David Duncan will he be the third??

Thanks in advance! Would he call himself Dr. I would assume so since his legal name does not include the professional title. Is that correct? Your site is wonderful- clear, informative, and entertaining. For over 25 years as an adult I was in the military, so there was no real reason for using it. When I was kid I remembering mentioned to my dad that if I was a junior, it meant he was a senior.

I think I got my name due to pressure from his mother to continue her family name — her maiden name is our middle name. Or is it just the Roman numeral? My name is Walter Filmore IV. If me and my same sex partner, James Creed, get married and he wants to hyphenate, is there a way for me to remain a IV, and could my son still be a V with a hyphenated last name? My father and I have exact same names. Except I have roman numeral II and he has no suffix.

And I junior? It has bothered me most my life. Recently I was told my grandfather had affair with my mother. Could that then explain why the II is behind mine and none behind my dads? My grand father was named Frank Joesph Schilling deceased. My dad is named Frank Edward Schilling without a II, actually he was and still is called Frank Jr erroneously in my opinion by many that are not super close friends.

My son just born a few days ago is named Frank Edward Schilling. Being they wanted this prior to leaving the hospital, went with III. Let me know if this should be changed in your opinion.

I probably have a few days to change it before having to go through a larger process to change it later. Hello, I have a few questions. Ok, my Dad had a brother named John Clay, who died very young.

He wanted to name me after himself or John Clay, after his brother. He, instead, ended up honoring him still by naming me Clayton Keith. Well, I figured it would be a great honor to my family, and my late uncle, if I named my son John Clay. You said it can skip generations but can it be the brothers of the grandfather which would be his grand uncle. Would he be John Clay II? Finally, could I name my son after a fictional character and he be a II?

My brother Miguel Albert Douglas Fuentes named his son my nephew the same and legally added the jr. So, does this make my nephew a true Junior since legally they have different names? Also, if he is a true junior, and chooses to name his son the same, what would that make him?

A III or a junior? Legally, both my son and husband share the same first, middle and last name. My husband has always gone by his middle name-to family and close friends, -and my son goes by his first name.

My dads father is John —— ——— Sr My dads brother is john —— ——- jr My dads brother had a son john —- —-3rd. Now, I am a jr and my first son was named after me. I have another son, named after his great grandfather. I want to name him the 4th after my fathers father. My grandfather was Charles E. Love, Sr and my dad was Charles E. Love Jr.

If I name my son after his grandfather — would he be Charles E. Love II?? Thanks James Love. Hi my name before iwas a single elizabeth amatong II and now I got married.

Im confused about the proper way to write it on, on my legal documents. Pls help.. What about cousins, 1st cousins, 2nd cousins with the same exact name. Mine is Kenneth James Turscak My second cousin shares the same name, as well as my third and fourth cousin. This makes it kind of confusing. Just saying. Hello I have a question. I want to know is my son still consider a jr even though his first and middle name is switched around?